Ivy Lee a-Visiting

Ivy L. Lee, of Manhattan, returned to the United States from a visit to several European capitals. He talked with Chancellor Cuno, Herr Hugo Stinnes and Benito Mussolini, Premier of Italy.

His impressions:

Of Cuno. The Cunos do not like dwelling in the Chancellery made famous by Bismarck, because there are not enough bathrooms. The Chancellor resembles Samuel Rea of the Pennsylvania Railway--a person of unpretentious manners and simple directness in approaching an issue. Herr Cuno says: "We are foolish to continue to pour our money into the unoccupied district to encourage resistance. But the French are foolish to be there, and so long as the French will be foolish, so must we be!"

Of Hugo Stinnes. Herr Stinnes is not difficult to approach. Mr. Lee spoke with him for two hours in one of his hotels which bore signs at the door, French and Belgians Will Not Be Accommodated. Stinnes said that his workmen in the Ruhr continually urge him to allow them to rise up and throw the French neck and crop out of the country, but he always counsels nonresistance." Peaceful though the occupation of the Rhineland may look on paper, it is real war in the feeling it arouses in the people of the territory."

Of Mussolini. Mr. Lee says Mussolini's rule is personal. When speaking with Americans he used an interpreter, but " so mobile is his face and so rapid its play of expression that the watching interviewer can get his meaning almost before the English words reach the ear." The Premier attended the recent session of the International Chamber of Commerce held in Rome. Cinema men prepared to take a picture of him. The great man frowned--the picture was not taken. Explaining his change from Socialism to Fascism, Mussolini said: "I looked at Russia and saw the logical outcome of what I once believed in. It was too much for me. I am now convinced that the order of society in which the individual is left to his own initiative to rise as high as he has it in him is the best system that can be devised."